Failure in distal implant: suggestions?

As you can see on the radiographs, I placed two implants in this patient. The bone is unfortunately D4. One month later, the distal implant was about to exfoliate without any pain, just inflammation of the gingiva around the implant. The mesial implant is okay. I am wondering why did this happen? I am planning on replacing the distal implant in three months. What are your recommendations?




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Richard Hughes DDS
6/21/2018
The tongue killed the implant. I understand why you placed the healing abutment but the tongue is the culprit. I have been burned this way. So now I don’t place a healing abutment at the time of first stage surgery.
HARARI
6/22/2018
You never do one stage surgery on the posterior lower teeth ?
Dok
6/22/2018
Always consider all the usual suspects and revisit patient's medical history, the treatment plan, surgery and post-op circumstances. Avascular necrosis( not enough good bone around the implant ), pressure necrosis ( over torquing the implant in dense bone ) and necrosis from trauma ( including tongue forces ). Don't make the same mistake twice. If you are unsure, always refer.......
Elvert Pinzon Ferro
6/22/2018
inminente infeccion en la ensercion en el momento de la cirugia. IMPLANTE CONTAMINADO.
Harari
6/23/2018
Contamination from Salive is possible?
Dennis Flanagan DDS MSc
6/22/2018
Was #31 a failed endo? If so there may be vegetating bacteria in that site.
Harari
6/23/2018
I don’t know The patient has left these two teeth long time ago before I knew her
mwjdds,ms
6/22/2018
Sometimes bad luck. My suggestion is don't try to find a reason. Failures happen to good people. However, #31 has serious mesial drift make sure you remove the mesial aspect of this tooth to parallel your implants otherwise you'll have a food trap. Let it heal and redo it or, if all else fails connect the implant to the natural tooth as a three unit bridge.
Harari
6/23/2018
I cannot connect to the last tooth It’s a little bit shaking
Dale Gerke - BDS, BScDent
6/25/2018
Are you really recommending attaching a fixed prosthesis to an implant and natural tooth?
mwjdds,ms
6/26/2018
Sorry, I was out of town. Yes, I have connected teeth to implants for over 20 years. It's not my first choice but has worked very well when connecting to aperiodontally stable tooth. I also use a semi precision attachment on the proximal surface of the natural tooth.
Marcusdoc
6/22/2018
I’ve posted many replies and have seen many other people reply to these posted cases. I have yet to see a response from the original poster. Am I correct on this? Why is there never an identification of the poster and yet the repliers have to identify themselves? It would be nice to hear the OP respond to some of these very good recommendations and suggestions.
Harari
6/23/2018
Sorry but I was not able to re-ply at the moment
amahmud1986
6/22/2018
I would suggest doing two stage surgery and letting the implant stay completely covered with soft tissue for a minimum of three months, possibly longer depending on the degree of initial primary stability and the quality of bone in the area. Also, it will be challenging to restore these two implants due to the mesial angulation of the second molar as mentioned by previous commentators. For the failed implant, what size did you place? Did you use a pre-op CBCT to verify accurate bone depth before your osteotomy?
Harari
6/23/2018
It’s your last question you got the answer on the x-ray I post at the beginning
DREAM DDS
6/23/2018
I feel all these replies are possible and excellent and could be true for any case at any given time If true D4 bone it is not good to place healing abutment. True D4 bone would not allow torque above 25ncm and that contraindicates healing abutment. What were the individual torques Tongue and food even soft food creates sheer forces. Wait until you see the same case, implants covered 4 months , uncover and have the same result Molar screws out. Some things just do happen I like the foresight to Tx plan the molar for plasty or crown. That is forward thinking.
Harari
6/23/2018
Thanks for your answer When I began implants 30 years ago, I only used two stages surgery. But several times, I found operculisation and the food went into the hole, and then loss bone. So I used one stage to avoid that problem.
Raul R Mena
6/25/2018
There is something wrong with the XR . Compare the position of the apex of the failing implant and the incisal portion on both XR. Either distortion or the implant was extruded due to the infection
Harari
6/25/2018
Thats’patent Extruded.
Harari
6/25/2018
40 Ncm at the last screw Certainly because of the thick cortical bone.
Oliver Scheiter
6/23/2018
The other implant seems to have the same kind of problem just not as advanced. My bet us you overheated the bone. With an aseptic inflammation you don’t need to wait three months. You will have to remove the inflammatory tissue, though. Watch the other implant closely
Harari
6/23/2018
Alright
Don Callan
6/25/2018
Remove IP, remove soft tissue, Graft with an allograft, wait 3-5 months , place another IP, wait 3-4m, restoration
DOCTOR SM
6/26/2018
Some implants are in a sterile bottle with sterile saline in.This causes failure, not in every piece though, because of salts on the implant surface. I lost 1 out of 4 , 2stage implants with no other complication,the implant company stopped the sterile water in the bottle.
DREAM DDS
6/26/2018
I am interested in the implant brand used here and also the implant in saline mentioned by DOCTOR SM often there are issues we never hear about and the companies bury the truth. Thanks Leonard
Neni Shriver
10/23/2018
I wish there are Pano, BW, PA, CBCT provided here. Judging from limited xray, I wouldn’t hesitate to remove #32. Remove implant #31, bone graft wait at least 4 months. Place implant #31 with full thickness so you can see well ,burry it for 4 months.
Harari
10/23/2018
Thanks for the answer You took four months of reflection ! Must be a wise man

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