How to restore this space: one or two implants?
This space is about 11mm across the top. I can’t see how 2 implants will fit in this space. Would one implant be able to carry 2 teeth? I know it depends on the occlusion but, in general, what would be the outcome? If she has 2 x 3.5 diameter implants, it won’t leave much space between the implants and between implant and teeth. Any comments appreciated.
23 Comments on How to restore this space: one or two implants?
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Dr. Habeeb
1/15/2016
One Wide Diameter Implant with Selective occlusal load.
CRS
1/15/2016
How much buccal palatal width will determine how wide you can go. I would do a wax up and determine if two premolars would fit the non esthetic functional space based on the opposing occlusion. Let the patient know due to the odd space two premolars are optimal.
Carlos Boudet, DDS DICOI
1/16/2016
CRS gives you good information. A wax-up is ideal for larger cases, but you can use calipers and measure the space available, and the space required for a normal sized premolar without spending time or money on a wax-up.
I would not use a wide diameter implant in this situation.
If you measure, you will see that you would have to place two narrow premolars to fill the space and this would not give you the best aesthetics.
Also, you might compromise the resulting gingival morphology by having to place the two implants too close to each other. 3 mm should be the minimal distance between them, and 1.5 mm from implant to tooth. Anything less risks crestal bone loss.
In my experience, I have found that it looks better to place a correctly sized first premolar (looks like the two premolars are missing) and leave a small space behind that could easily be closed with orthodontics if desired.
My two cents.
Good luck!
CRS
1/16/2016
Thanks Carlos.
Bruno
4/8/2017
The best solution.
Ed Mazer
7/24/2017
Depending on the patients desires and their needs, orthodontics could be considered to move the molars distally. A lot of work but it is worth it in some patients (depending on the patients age and concerns). Other than that spacing is and is critical. For the extra 1/2 mm space you need with two 3.0 mm implants, perhaps shaving the proximal surfaces will be acceptable???
PeterFairbairn
1/17/2016
The premolar in front looks heavily filled and can be crowned ..... then a single Implant and crown ...... Implant size not Important as dictated by the available bone as CRS states .
In that way the dimensions can be adjusted to create good contacts....
Peter
Dr S
1/18/2016
I'd play it safe and put two implants in unless you can fit a single wide diameter implant.
E Katch DMD
1/19/2016
Not enough space for two, inviting a problem and not playing it safe, as I agree with the Kurtzman post below need 2mm space btw tooth/implant and 3mm between implants.
Gregori Kurtzman, DDS, MA
1/19/2016
Two implants wont fit in that space following the recommended 2mm between implant and natural tooth and 3mm between implants because in a 2 implant scenerio the spacing along eats up 7mm of the 11mm available.
I would recommend a 5mm wide implant centered into the space which would give you 3mm between implant and natural tooth on either side then have the lab fabricate it to look like two premolars on the occlusal and buccal sides. I would do it as a screw retained.
Zoran
1/19/2016
Dr Milankov DDS
I should be place 3 implants of 2,4 mm ( MDI, 3M... or some of small diameter), one phase, I mediant with 2 crowns
Gregori Kurtzman, DDS, MA
1/19/2016
Sorry that goes against everything prosthetic I have ever been taught and sorry mini implants are not the solution for missing posterior teeth that will be a fixed approach
Zoran
1/20/2016
Hi, I do it that way for a long time, and there is a rule: one root=one implant. And if you calculate a surface in adition, thos is a ++ and diameter is ++ because there is a less bone distruction.
Last time it becomes a routine in implantology, especialy with cad-cam.
Also you can make a temporary crown from composites in 1/2 h. And, the patients are satisfied, because this is a fastes and elegant and efective way for them to get them a positive results, with almost 0 pain.
Ben Manzoor
1/19/2016
In space 10mm+ where adequate bone is available I use straumann WN (6.5) tissue level which gives wide emergence. However for this implant wax up is even more important as its less forgiving when it comes to positioning of implant and if u not familiar with tissue level implant then do any 5mm .
I would corwn premolar as Prof Fairbairn suggested.
Cases like these I am keen to have screw retained restoration for the ease of maintenance. However, some may not agree.
Dennis Flanagan DDS MSc
1/19/2016
11 mm would allow placement of two 2.5mm implants. It would imperative to have no contact with excursions so the only substantial load on these would be axially directed. If the bone is less than 4.5 mm wide then it should be split with a scalpel and channel former with immediate or delayed implant placement. Additionally, a 3.2 mm and a 2.5 mm implant may fit. Narrow diameter implants do not require 3mm interimplant spacing. 1.8-2.0 mm is OK.
Dennis Flanagan DDS MSc
DrLSD
1/19/2016
Heresy on this board but anyone for a conventional three unit fixed bridge?
Gregori Kurtzman, DDS, MA
1/19/2016
Always an option and one that should be presented to the pt as an alternative option to an implant. Although if they went that route I would do it as a 4 unit bridge and only charge for a 3 as I think 2 premolars may look better in the space then a very wide molar but a wax up would tell for sure
Barry Tibbott
1/20/2016
If you look at the radiograph the edentulous area is quite dark. Bone Width bucco-palatally will consequently be very thin. This will preclude any thoughts of a wide implant unless grafting or ridge dilation is performed.
PeterFairbairn
1/21/2016
Agree Barry , hence will need possibly thinner Implant and regeneration ........hope you are well
Peter
Manuel Chio
1/20/2016
5 mm implant and orthodontics i suggested
Cliff Leachman
1/21/2016
Looks like the molar Endo is short, possibly failing, open margin on the distal of the crown and the premolars looks suspect too. Interesting to hear some of the treatment options, if you can't negotiate the molar mb canal you have lots of room for a couple of implants after the inevitable extraction. Great comments always multiple way to skin a cat, but I think this cat is very sick already?
Mouhamad
1/26/2016
14 and 11 look a bit weak, a bridge is still a viable option.
Spence
10/21/2016
To the original poster: Help us to help you. If you want meaningful clinical advice that is appropriate for the case in question, then we need all the info you have. Pics or at least some comments on the ridge width and your thoughts on how you'll manage a resorbed buccal. Are you able to manage the sinus if you were to place 2 implants? Or are you preferring to avoid 2 implants to avoid the sinus?).
Y'all have assumed you know exactly what this measurement is: "This space is about 11mm across the top." I don't know what that means.
I read: "about 11mm" and I'm not sure if the measurement was eyeballed with a ruler in the mouth.
I read: "across the top" and I'm thinking measured mesial contact area to distal contact area, or is it "about 11mm" root to root measured at the bone crest on the xray?
I did not read which teeth are missing. Seeing only half of the mesial tooth makes us guess and we shouldn't have to guess.
It is obvious there are a lot of experienced dentists interested in helping... Their most meaningful advice will come from knowing as much about the situation as possible.