Immediate Implant Pain and Mobile Crown: Recommendations?

I did an immediate implant in tooth #5 in June this year and started rehabilitation in mid-November 2019. Everything was fine until I loaded it with a screw retained crown a week ago and the patient started complaining of pain and mobile crown. I had torqued the crown to 25N/cm. When I checked, the crown was mobile and the patient would not allow me to de-torque the crown without administering local anesthesia. When I de-torqued the crown and put healing abutment it got loose on its own twice, plus I saw there was a little buccolingual movement of the implant with the healing abutment. What do you suggest I do now? Here are the x-rays from immediate post-op to final placement




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Roadkingdoc
12/6/2019
Unfortunately it looks like a failure to integrate. I would remove implant graft heal and replace.
Smiledr
12/6/2019
I don’t think this implant ever integrated.
Dr
12/6/2019
thanks for your opinion But I wonder why it failed to integrate.
Gregori M. Kurtzman, DDS
12/6/2019
what was at the site prior to implant placement? was this an immediate placement? Failed endo site?
Chet
12/6/2019
I suspect that #6 is necrotic. That can cause failure to integrate. #6 has to be treated endodontically first... Then the implant.
Timothy C Carter
12/7/2019
Looks like it never integrated. Don’t beat yourself up it happens. Remove it, wait, replace and address restorative #4
Dr Easy
12/9/2019
Hi Dr. Thank you for sharing your case. I think the size of the fixture is too big and is too close to the second premolar, and before placing implant, the neighborhoods should be free of caries and infectious. My suggestion is to remove it and put bone graft and fix the cavity and wait for 4 months.
Richard Hughes, DDS, FAAI
12/6/2019
This is an early failure. Remove said implant, degranulate, detoxify the site, decorticating, graft and later place a wider and longer implant if possible. These things happen.
Dr
12/6/2019
Thanks!! In your opinion should I have waited a little more time before starting the rehab or it would have failed anyways
Timothy C Carter
12/7/2019
Not wider..... that looks too wide as is
Miguel Martinez
12/6/2019
All have given you good advice. Remove implant as soon as possible.
Dennis Flanagan DDS MSc
12/6/2019
If the natural tooth was a failed endo then it may have been an E. faecalis colonization. Yes explant, debride and graft and wait 4 moths for healing then replace the implant. Consider a 3.2X13 implant.
Dr
12/6/2019
Yes in that case, I must act immediately It wasn’t a failed endo case (I don’t like to place an immediate implant in those cases for the reason rightly mentioned by you) it was a healthy tooth with root caries on both mesial and distal aspects so I advised extraction followed by immediate placement of an implant. I am just keen to know any precautions that I can practice in particular so that I encounter lesser of situations like these. It ll be quite embarrassing to admit to the patient about the failure.
roadkingdoc
12/6/2019
My comment to the patient is your bone is rejecting this implant. May as well get over the embarrassment part. Unfortunately shit happens in implant dentistry. More happens to those with less training and experience than well educated clinicians. To be kind, your question suggest you are new to implant dentistry. Get more education. Find yourself a mentor. Thanks for sharing. Good luck to you!
Leal
12/6/2019
What about the deep subgingival cavity in the neighbour tooth?
Gregori M. Kurtzman, DDS
12/6/2019
Radiographically there is a thin radiolucency around the implant and that combined with the slight mobility you describe say the implant has failed and needs to be removed. Any mobility on an implant indicates its failed.
Frank
12/6/2019
Can’t believe you placed that implant before addressing the large cavities on Other teeth...
Dan
12/6/2019
Often we don't know the reason an implant fails. Sometimes we can pinpoint the reason. 1) Agree with people that you should remove and debride the site. Graft right away. When debriding, make sure that you have intact bone around the osteotomy. Sometimes the buccal plate is perforated at implant placement or the resorptive process cause loss of the plate. 2) I highly recommend doing ISQ tests prior to restoring an implant. I have been doing this in my practice for about 7 years now. It is not foolproof but does tell you how stable the implant is and can let you know if you should wait longer for integration or if you should even restore if the stability isn't good. There are lots of studies discussing how to use ISQ and what the numbers can mean.
Evan Tetelman
12/6/2019
Lot's of possible reasons but they all lead the same way. Remove the fixture and start again. Be sure you get adequate torque on the new fixture when you place it. Sorry.
WIlliam J. Starck DDS
12/6/2019
More than likely #11 is necrotic and was probably necrotic at the time you placed the implant. It may have been a sub-clinical infection in which case the patient may have been asymptomatic. So, the immune system is staying ahead of the infection. Then the stress of surgery taxes the immune system just enough that the infection becomes clinical. The infection will take the path of least resistance and track straight over to the freshly created osteotomy. Frequently though, the patient will still remain asymptomatic because the infection will drain up along the wall of the osteotomy and into the oral cavity, so the typical abscess pain will not develop. This will cause the whole implant to become septic, as well as the bone around the original osteotomy. I have found this sequence of events to often be the cause of catastrophic failure of dental implants, as in your case. The other possibilities are that the original socket was septic or that you overheated the bone when making the original osteotomy. You only choice is to remove the implant, debrief the site and graft, then replace the implant after 4-6 months of healing. A bummer, but it happens.
Dr Bijander jain
12/6/2019
1. Remove Implant. Currate it well 2. Bicortical engagement with longer implant 3. .5mm wider implant should be used 4. Close it with prf for 6 month
Dr Zoobi
12/6/2019
I agree with all comments here. I would like to add tooth #6 needs and endo and crown as well. All contributes to implant integration. Bacteria loves these open spaces at the gum line. The only integration you have is at the apex of the implant which is why you were able to load it. You also might have wrong size abutment if the healing abutment kept popping out. Also, implant needs to be longer and you have plenty of great bone above to place a better sized implant. I would decorticate the implant site after implant removal and bone graft. Make sure membrane spans from your bucal wall and tucked under your palatial tissue. Suture over membrane to insure membrane stability. Wait until bone is fully mature 3-6 months before placing a longer implant. I would also give the new implant 4-6 months to fully integrate before loading it. You most likely have one more chance at this without fully losing bucal plate and attachment on adjacent teeth. You also need a cone scan on this patient to get specifics. If your new to implants, I would recommend a mentor. Calderon Institute has helped me tremendously over the years and walked me through my cases when I first started placing implants. Highly recommended. Thanks for posting.
Dr
12/7/2019
Dr zoo birds, thanks a lot for such a detailed explanation But actually if we see the iopar carefully the enamel margin is intact even clinically there is no active or arrested caries Yes there is a cervical defect of enamel n I wonder how pronounced that looks in the iopar needless to say indicative of an Endodontics treatment
Dr
12/7/2019
Really sorry for the typographical error.. I wanted to address u as “dr zoobi” Pls forgive me for that My bad!!!
Dr Zoobi
12/7/2019
Lol, all good about the name. Your missing some of the significant basics on this case. Your more than welcome to email me personally and I will help you get through this case. drzoobi@gmail.com
Dr Zoobi
12/9/2019
All good. You have a lot of great doctors here telling you the same thing. You also have to consider your patients bruxism for your final restoration. Good luck
Dralfdel
12/6/2019
Sometimes implants fail, immediate implants at a slightly higher rate. Remove, graft and come back in an 12 weeks. Good luck!
Dr
12/7/2019
Yes I realise that the immediate implants fail faster Thanks for suggestions
DrT
12/6/2019
Explant, graft and by all means treat the decay on the canine asap. I do not think a wider implant is indicated; perhaps a longer one. Try to stay at least a mm and a half from adjacent natural teeth. Wait 4-6 months before placing another implant
Dr Bijander jain
12/6/2019
1. Remove Implant. Currate it well 2. Bicortical engagement with longer implant 3. .5mm wider implant should be used 4. Close it with prf for 6 month
Dr
12/7/2019
Thanks.. that’s the catch the implant here is quite wide for this socket
Pushkar
12/7/2019
Hello This seems to be a conventional two piece Korean implant. The suggestion I'm going to put forward might not be supported by many. Remove the implant, clean the site. Place bi cortical engaging polished surface implant giving immediate functional support (Based on Osseofixation and not integration). Best of luck. Regards
Dr
12/7/2019
Yes you are right this is an Osstem / Hiosen implant 4.5 mm in diameter. Can I load that implant immediately in case of Paseo fixation? Do u recommend any implant company?
Pushkar
12/9/2019
I'm using Simpladent for basal implants right now
Gary OMS
12/7/2019
What is the rationale of immediate placement and after 5 months second stage surgery? U should place more slender but longer implants immediately and graft the gap. U should also have placed a healing abutment instead of a closure cap. Please stop implanting and read some articles.
Gary OMS
12/7/2019
Sorry for being so bold, but you should take one step at a time, start with delayed procedures two stage, later on one stage and only after several yrs of experience start to think about immediate placement. It' s not rocket science but it takes experience and theoretical background (starting with basics like the excellent ITI books ). Even then you'll have failures indeed.
Dr
12/7/2019
Thanks for guiding me. I know it’s only theoretical knowledge backed with experience that would help me sail thru such situations. I am an endodontist and hence have a hesitant surgical hand. I am quite keen on honing my skills in this field n I hate to do a bad work. Could pls give me some honest suggestions on how I should go about taking a more calculated decisions to avoid subjecting my patients to uncertainties like these
sandman
12/7/2019
how lucky you are to have all these great opinions and know stuff happens. it happens to everyone even if you do things right and then you go back months later and it works good news it is not 15-17 years ago when you did not have a lot of these experienced HONEST docs telling you the facts.
Greg Kammeyer, DDS, MS, D
12/9/2019
When cleaning the site: currette and then agressively run a round bur all around the socket. That will decrease the bacterial count left from the extraction. Phase the replacement: Don't put a bigger or longer implant into this site.
satlajb
12/10/2019
good case, thanks for sharing
Dr
12/11/2019
Thanks a lot for all your valuable suggestions. It has given me a fair insight into my shortcomings and aspects I would not have been able to pay attention otherwise. I ll definitely improvise over this case. Thanks again!!
Sam latif
12/15/2019
Failed , I bet never integrated , the most likely perforation of the buccal plate at the apex , if you lay flap you will see it or take scan , I Treated one case seminar to this . And the implant is Too large . Good luck
nalmoc
2/10/2020
Great comments we have here. Love all of them. Even though we are all implantologist now, remember that we are dentist first and treat teeth with caries during phase 1 therapy before getting to implant placement. While we are talking about this failed implant, we may be preparing to extract the cuspid with large sugingival caries. After caries excavation, that tooth may need crown lengthening. Thank you for all the feedbacks
dr. jordan
3/8/2020
implant too large for receptor site remove implant no need for graft at this time, wait to re-evaluate socket post op and rule out any perforations , if healthy, and no neighborhood infection exists, then do another tx , cbct if all good , then plan smaller, slightly longer implant and then possible graft wait for implant integration before restoration
dr. jordan
3/8/2020
implant too large for receptor site remove implant no need for graft at this time, wait to re-evaluate socket post op and rule out any perforations , if healthy, and no neighborhood infection exists, then do another tx , cbct if all good , then plan smaller, then possible graft wait for implant integration before restoration

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