Is the bone quality good enough for an implant?

About 5 months ago I extracted #18 [mandibular left second molar;37]. The tooth had previous endo. I thoroughly debrided the socket and placed a bone graft. Â I would like to install an implant now in this site ( I’m placing ankylos implants). The panoramic radiograph that I took shows an uneven bone density and quality in the site. Â The buccolingual bone volume is adequate for implant installation. This is obviously not an ideal graft response. Â Do you think that the graft resorbed? Should I go ahead and place the implant or is this going to cause a problem? Â Is there any chance that this site will increase in bone density? Â I do not feel confident about installing an implant. How should I manage this?

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20 Comments on Is the bone quality good enough for an implant?

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John Kong, DDS
8/25/2012
There's a great variability in hard tissue formation (remodelling from woven to lamellar bone) within extraction sockets between different individuals (especially on a molar), so don't sweat it. Standard wait time is 12-24 weeks. So, I would go ahead and place that implant.
DR S
8/26/2012
Hi Sorry but i think a PA would be a better view of this area to comment. Also it would be good to know what type of a graft was used..was it a resorbable graft or a xenograft. However either way 5 months is a very good time to place an implant...
Richard Hughes, DDS, FAAI
8/26/2012
Youbare most likely ready to proceed.
Dr. Ben
8/26/2012
5 months is good enough, Panoramic x-ray is not enough to evaluate bone quality, CBCT would be better, and sometimes it's totally different story when you start doing your osteotomy, If this is my own mouth i'll agree placing the implant right away Good Luck
Richard Hughes, DDS, FAAI
8/27/2012
DrS a xenograft most likely will not resorb. Check out Buser's book.
Dr. Alex Zavyalov
8/27/2012
The powerful antagonists dictate “D” or “Q” type of Ankylos insertion (at least 8mm long) to withstand loading, but there is no image of the inferior nerve canal location on the X ray.
Dr. CP
8/27/2012
The type of bone graft was an allograft. DBX putty. What is "D" or "Q" type of insertion? Does anyone know if its best to use an 8mm and place 1-2 mm subcrestal or a 9.5mm and place at crest of bone if bone height is limited (ankylos)
Dr. Alex Zavyalov
8/27/2012
“C” not “Q” means a 5.5mm-diameter implant: “D” means 7mm
Baker k. Vinci
8/29/2012
It would probably be easier for everyone just to suggest the diameter in numbers, Just as it much easier to describe bone or TM joint health with scientific adjectives. The ABOMS examination does not include bone types or Wilkes classification numbers, anymore. Place the implant and if the anatomy is not perfect, graft the coronal aspect with the same material. Bv
Dr IGT
8/28/2012
You are better off placing an Akylos implant subcrestal than crestal. Subcrestal placement means the surrounding bone will carry the stresses, but crestal placement will cause the implant itself to carry more of the lateral forces. A "B" 9.5mm subcrestal should be sufficient, if you are looking at 8mm length, then I would go wider as mentioned already to a "C". I have personally never placed a "D".
CRS
8/28/2012
The most important thing is the amount of buccal plate at extraction, this needs to be evaluated at extraction,via a flap with releasing excision. If it is thin or a defect is there place a membrane, teflon or resorbable. I have not liked the results with the bone puttys, not as dense, I use bottled human cortical-cancellous demineralized it packs better and blood fills the spaces. Primary closure. place implants at crest you will get dieback to the first thread if you go subcrestal due to biologic width. Hang in there, always check the bucccal plate you won't get collapse. Nice case I'd place a 4.1x11.5 tapered self tapper!
tomobooth
8/29/2012
i wouldnt raise a flap 'to have a look' your disrupting the periosteum. Gey some decent calipers- or a ct or palpate with a probe buccally and in the socket. I generally place a collagen block and try and get closure with soem relief mesial and distal to socket under minimal tension. This prevents soft tissue infiltation and is typically reading to go 3/12. Bone augmentation materials need 6/12 to allow angiogenesis.
Dr. Gerald Rudick
8/28/2012
If you are not confident with the result of the graft.....then open a flap, check out the density, make sure there is no granulation tissue, and add more graft material and wait another 4 months....better to be sure than be sorry later.
nailesh gandhi
8/29/2012
i agree with CRS
steve c
8/29/2012
I would certainly get a ct scan done. It will provide all the information you need on bone shape and density as well as whether there are voids or buccal clefts in bone. The nerve location is always important when deciding implant length or how far subcrestal you can afford to go with a given implant length.
RGL
8/29/2012
If you get a CBCT and an implant software, you can determine in hounsfield units the bone quality in the area where you are going to place the implant. Softwares have a library where you can pick the implant brand and decide its width and lenght.
CRS
9/4/2012
CBCT are always very nice, but you can't operate on what you can't see at extraction and implant placement, not a good idea to work blind. Also how can you tell at what bone level the implant is placed? It's just good surgical technique. I do love cone beam but a ct generated surgiguide it the only way to accurately transfer to info.
Sam Jain DMD
9/12/2012
Pl take my advise Take a CT scan. CT scan are your eyes in the px' s jaw Bone. It gives you confidence when are drilling and piece of mind. Bone looks ok, place a 5.0x10 fixture tissue level like Screw plus from implant direct for $150 bucks which includes abut also. Why do u have to use the most expensive implant. Implant brand does not matter, it is the surgeons knowledge that matters. And for CRA: pl don't teach these newbies 10 yr old implant dentistry concepts. Sam Jain, DMD Center for Implant Dentistry Fremont, CA
Mladen Petranovic, DMD, M
9/29/2012
Dear all, I agree. Pls take CT scan ALWAYS when is possibile, we humans are 3D not 2D like ORTHO or something like photo. One dimension always miss, because of that fact CBCT is golden standard. I personaly use Morita Acc. CBCT and Ankylos implants. Mercedes or somethihg else, they both are cars. Would you in your mouth want something alse then superior product, or you think that knowledge is only important or surgeon ? I agree knowlwdge is the power. Make your life easier... CBCT ! Then the answer comes ! The panoramic radiograph is history ! P.s. As for the implant, I used 8 different systems, why think about sealing or closure, the superstructure, bone loss, the risk should be reduced still. But not all think alike, which is perhaps good ? We work with people and their confidence that they pay. Esthetics Dental Center Opatija Croatia Europe
Hossam Barghash
9/30/2012
the paradox of good and bad quality of bone is wrong, it was based only on primary stability of machined type implant. now with advance technology and better understanding on molecular bone biology, we know that there is different bone type with different way to handle and primary stability is just to sit the stage of secondary stability which well increase in trabecular bone and decrease in cortical bone. a critical stability with no micro movement 50- 150 um which is the stability needed for bone healing. we need to update our knowledge about bone and forget the wrong believes.

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