Mandibular implant placement and shoulder pain?
My patient had implants placed in #18 and 19 sites. X-rays all look good. Implants are not into the IA nerve. Patient started having left shoulder pain immediately after implant placement. His physician has MRI, CT, X-rays that have not revealed anything. After I placed the screw retained crowns, he said the shoulder pain has increased. He had no shoulder pain at all prior to dental work. Has anyone had any similar experiences? I did have a patient who I extracted #15 and her shoulder pain of 5 years went away.
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Robert J. Miller
2/13/2019
Did you get medical clearance? Are there any cardiac issues?
Alexia
2/13/2019
Patient did not present with any medical issues prior to the implants being placed. No other medical issues have been found after either. I did have a case where I extracted #15 on a patient (different patient) and she stated that her shoulder pain of 5 years went away after the extraction.
Matt Helm DDS
2/26/2019
And why do you think that patient's shoulder pain went away after the #15 extraction??? That #15 had probably been in hyper occlusion, most likely causing an occlusal interference (specially in lateral movements) and she had "found herself" one spot on it on which she was happily bruxing away like crazy, all the time, day and night. She continued to brux post-extraction, but since it wasn't all concentrated on one occlusal contact the pain "magically" went away because now the occlusal forces were distributed over a much larger area. But you only need a minimum of about 10-12 years of treating TMJ to pick up on such finer points.
Shahram Vaziri, DDS, PhD,
2/13/2019
Since you mentioned his pain increased after restoration, I suspect there is a TMJ condition and it's associated with her pterygoid muscles. Many times tensions in TMJ is associated with neck tensions as well. There is an informative clip on U tube which you will find it's link attached below. I hope this will help your patient.
https://youtu.be/tGw3J0sMdg8
Cogollo José
2/13/2019
I suggest you check the tmj, in the panoramic radiography there seems to be a disharmony in the form and height of the condyles, it could be an arthritis in the condyles leading to a temporo mandibular disorder triggered by the insertion of the implants, which could Affect the muscles of the neck and shoulder, check the occlusion of the crowns.
Matt Helm DDS
2/13/2019
Concur with Dr Shahram. Shoulder and neck pain are almost always associated with TMJ and, more specifically, with bruxism. if your patient's pain increased after restoring the implants it's a sure bet that he's a bruxer, and a heavy one at that. Check the rest of his natural dentition for wear facets and fabricate a lower rigid and smooth nightguard, also known as a MORA or Gelb-type appliance, if you don't want those pretty implants to fail due to bruxism.
Dr Dale Gerke, BDS, BScDe
2/13/2019
The above answers could be correct but the sudden onset straight after insertion – firstly of the implants but subsequently the crowns – would suggest something different. TMJD generally does not have an immediate presentation like you described. The pain sequence does not marry to cardiac issues either – although it should not be discounted.
One possibility might be the patient’s head position while in the chair (during treatment). I lie my patients very horizontally in the chair and I know sometimes this causes some musculoskeletal issues due to cervical extension. Given the time frame of onset, this could be a possible cause – however I do not know the position you put your patients in.
Perhaps the best thing to do is discuss this matter with a local chiropractor – and as long as he/she does not have an anti-implant stance – then possibly offer your patient a complimentary exam do see if some simple chiropractic treatment can help.
Matt Helm DDS
2/26/2019
Au contraire! TMJD generally DOES have an immediate presentation! TMJ dysfunction -- which is always associated with MPD (Myofascial Pain Dysfunction) -- most often presents first with what APPEARS to be a sudden onset, with the sudden onset of headaches and muscle aches that are not self-limiting and do not resolve spontaneously in a few days. IF the shoulder pain would have been caused simply by the patient's position in the chair it would have been self limiting, and would have abated without treatment in a few days. The fact that this patient's symptoms are persistent is clear evidence that he was a subclinical bruxer for some time before he became symptomatic. It is even quite possible that the patient had suffered, and perhaps even noticed, some mild and intermittent muscular tenderness prior, but didn't think anything of it. This is very common among TMJ patients and becomes evident when, upon delving deeper into the history, we discover the onset is not at all quite as sudden as one might first be led to believe. Remember that 95% of the population are bruxers to one extent or another, but less than 50% end up being clinically diagnosed. To paraphrase the old saying: if I had a thousand dollars for every time I saw this in my 30+ years of practice I'd be a millionaire at least 20 times over.
bigjulie
2/13/2019
Was the placement under LA or GA?
Were mouth props used?
Was a cotton wad used for bleeding eg "bite on this" to the semiconscious patient?
Was neck movement restricted before or during the procedure?
Was the patient lifted from a trolley to an operating table?
Matt Helm DDS
2/26/2019
All irrelevant considering the persistence of the symptoms!
Doc J
2/13/2019
I agree with TMJ problems. The patient used the left side to chew before implants were placed - no molars top left. While healing took place she used the right side, inducing contra lateral pain. Consider a bite splint to see if it makes a difference. Also check for occlusal interference with excursions. Good luck. I hope it gets resolved soon.
Matt Helm DDS
2/14/2019
You (the original poster) wrote that "After I placed the screw retained crowns, he said the shoulder pain has increased." This is your definitive clue that your patient is a bruxer, and has most likely been one for a long time, albeit subclinically. After the restorations were placed he continued to brux on the left, but now more force was transmitted to the muscles because of the presence of the added molars. (And this is not the only aspect of it all, as described by others above.) A complete head and neck muscular examination (and possibly an EMG) will undoubtedly reveal generalized head and neck muscular spasm areas and trigger points. Make sure you examine the pterygoids, the SCM's, the posterior cervicals and the greater trapezius. Fabricate the appliance I described in my first post and do a complete occlusal equilibration, ensuring that the implant crowns have shallower cusps and are inactive in lateral movements. Last but not least, educate the patient about bruxism and don't accept his insistent denials that he doesn't brux -- no one knows when they brux in their sleep. Instruct him to observe himself carefully for daytime clenching and bruxing and if he does it, instruct him to wear the appliance during the daytime also for a few weeks to 2 months. Keep under observation and re-examine the musculature periodically. Inquire about headaches also, specially upon morning wake-up. Follow-up is important. He should be fine with proper management.
Mn2thdoc
2/16/2019
I love the open contact on the mesial and the failure to deal with the tipped molar on the distal. After your patient cleans all the food out of those embrasure spaces he likely will have even more shoulder pain.
AnontherMn2thdoc
2/26/2019
I do not think this comment was helpful to the discussion. Give the same respect you would like to receive.
Matt Helm DDS
2/26/2019
@anotherMn2thdoc: While you are right in principle, you must admit that Mn2thdoc does have a point: not only is the mesial contact open but the interproximal emergence profiles are all wrong -- especially the ones between the implants which are much too square and blocky and will facilitate plenty of food-particle retention. I would NOT want to have to clean those everyday in my mouth. Besides, Mn2thdoc does get points for being funny. I laffed! So sometimes even such comments can be helpful because they drive home a valid point. Nothing works like humor.
DrKalyani
2/23/2019
If the shoulder pain started after the abutments were loaded then TMJ disturbance and pain as a sudden onset can still be considered, but the evidence you have provided suggests the implants were placed first and loaded at a later date.
Pain after placement but before loading does not seem due to TMJ disturbance as a result of implant placement. Altogether a different story if a pre existing condition had a trigger.
Do correct me if wrong it's my personal interpretation.