Any Ridge Implant: Suggestions after noticing periapical lesion?
I installed an Any Ridge 3.5 x 8mm [MegaGen] in #11 site 8 weeks after extraction. I noted in the post-operative periapical radiograph that the implant has developed a periapical lesion around its apex. AnyRidge implants have a very aggressive thread and I am worrying that it is maybe too wide or have required excessive torqueing force to install. I may have overheated the bone or applied too much force to the bone. What do you recommend I do at this point?
(By the way, the other implant placed is Astra Tech. Placed a few years earlier and clinically no issues).
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CRS
1/17/2014
Remove it. The radioluncency is getting close to the sinus. What did the extracted tooth look like? It is not about the implant used this appears to be a retrograde peri-implantitis from bacteria in the bone. This implant appears to be failing.
Peter Fairbairn
1/17/2014
Yes CRS , looks like a take it out case , maxilla less inclined to an issue with compression , previous pathology as you said...
Sboms
1/17/2014
Wait, slow down
Let's look at the x-Ray taken immediAtely after placement and compare it to this one.
Are you sure this isn't where you may have over drilled the osteotomy?
CRS
1/17/2014
Margins look fuzzy vs a drill cut and are all around the implant, unless that's how this system cuts bone. One clue is that poster stated a lot of torque used to place it, could be die back. Need date on when X-Ray was taken in regards to implant placement I bet the tooth had periapical pathology. It doesn't look good.
doc
5/11/2017
It's illuminating how we try to deny what we see. There's an infection with a foreign body. The management of infected foreign bodies--as a principle of GENERAL SURGERY (which many dentists choose to forget from their surgery lectures in dental school) is REMOVAL, not "observation" to "see what happens" in a month or two. It's already happened! Clean out the area, use a reputable implant company whose implants aren't as aggressive as you say this one's is. Long and short of it is, "waiting" is delaying the obvious.
Richard Hughes, DDS, FAAI
1/18/2014
The other doctors mention valid points. You either have an infection,avascular necrosis. So, remove, degranulate, detox, decorticitate and graft with an particulate such as OsteoGen. The post insertion PA and knowledge of the patients medical Hx and sex would be helpful..
DVY
1/18/2014
Looks like you over-drilled the osteotomy.
Do you have a post-operative X-ray/Pano? If so, compare and contrast.
Another tip for Any-ridge- underdrill the osteomy. For maxillary bone with recent extraction, bone quality is generally very loose. I recommend using linderman drill, then 2.0 implant drill, followed by placement w/3.5 anyridge implant. From my experience, this allows best results as the implant acts as a quasi-spreader.
doc
5/11/2017
couldn't disagree more that the osteotomy is overdrilled. It would have filled in 8 weeks.
Give up tips on "anywhatever" implants. Use high quality equipment and stop trying to cut corners to increase profit margins
Richard
1/18/2014
Thanks for answers to all!
It looks that moderator changed my question a little bit. The patient is male, non smoking, good health. The canine was extracted because of periapical lesion and faild endodontic therapy. The implant is placed after almost a year. This x-ray is after 8 weeks of implant placement. I'm pretty sure that I didn't overheated the bone with drilling. Unfortunately, I don't have x-ray immediatley after placement.
The torque which produces this implant is very high even if I use cortical drill from surgical kit.
We removed the cover screw and the implant seems to be very stable. We tried to rotate it and couldn't do it with fingers. Clinicaly there is no signs of inflammation. The bone seems to be normal on palpation of the area.
CRS
1/18/2014
Retrograde peri implantitis from original failed root canal. From your post it seems you feel implant is stable. In my opinion once this is placed under occlusal load it will fail. Good luck.
Robert J. Miller
1/19/2014
Certainly appears to be a retrograde peri-implantitis. This is one of the most common untoward consequences of placing an implant immediately in an extraction site. Even though the source of infection is gone, unless the complete contents of the apical granuloma is removed, the immunologic response is still present. In contact with an implant apex it will continue to proliferate. There is one very predictable solution; a form of apical surgery utilizing an envelope flap that allows you to completely remove the apical tissue. Then we place a PRF plug in the apical zone. This fibrin matrix plays an anti-infective and anti-inflammatory role, allowing bone to start regrowing. While we do not have large numbers of cases to show using this modality, I can report 100% success in the cases we have treated. If the implant is stable and there is no facial bone loss, you owe it to your patient to have this procedure done, or refer the case to someone who will do it.
RJM
CRS
1/19/2014
Might I add using the nd-yag laser to assist in treating the infection during the procedure by removing epithelium and treating the bacteria in the privileged bone sites with the graft, beautiful! Since this implant is only eight weeks I would remove and treat the whole osteotomy, it's the only way to be sure!
Mahnaz syed
1/21/2014
When you remove the implant I would advise biopsy of the radiolucent area as it may be actinomycosis. This can happen as a residual problem after extraction of an endodntically treated tooth. It also takes long term antibiotics to resolve.
Zaki Kanaan
1/21/2014
A radiograph with the original failing tooth may help come to a diagnosis with this case. It definitely isn't the brand of implant that caused this. Been using Anyridge implants for a while and very happy with them and haven't seen this yet even with those that are placed with high torque.
Oleg Amayev
1/21/2014
Biopsy??? :)
Dr. Bob
1/22/2014
Consider the worst thing that could happen if this implant is left in place vs. removal. Remove, graft, wait for healing, and then relpace, worst thing, loss of time and the cost of the implant. Leave it in place and have more bone destroyed, perhaps into the sinus with sinus infection and loss of the facial plate. Even if this implant survives to second stage and is then loaded it is likely to fail within a few months. Worst thing, infection with bone loss into the sinus requiring treatment over a much longer time, and an very unhappy patient. The prudent thing to do is to remove and treat the cause of the bone loss as soon as it can be done.
John L Manuel, DDS
1/22/2014
'Amazing to hear of an implant's having been placed with no immediate pre-op, intra-op or post-op x-rays! I have a patient who opted to have a Periodontist put two 10 mm long implants in her resorbed lower 2nd molar site, with subsequent paresthesia... and he wants me to restore the implants... and he says he's taken no x-rays during or since the placement appointment 3 months ago! Of course he sent a CAT Scan taken before placement without any guides... Upon our request for an x-ray of the implants in place, his staff replied that he's such a "gifted" surgeon that he does not need them...
Is it not the standard of care to take an immediate pre-op, intra-op (length check,etc.) and post-op radiograph? Even Endodontics uses these 3 x-rays.
John
CRS
1/22/2014
Yikes! I would not restore! This guy is arrogant and needs to treat his iatrogenic complication! The patient treatment has been compromised and now he is trying to drag you into it. I think it is very wise if you to have him take the post op film so he can tell the patient if there is a problem. This is his responsibility.
KPM
1/22/2014
Holy lack of X-rays, Batman! Or should I say Superman? Because this perio guy must have X-ray vision. Or course you take a post op film! For any number of and all reasons! Heed, CRS, John, although you probably have come to that conclusion on your own. This sounds like trouble from A to Z.
CRS
1/22/2014
Even though I do have X-ray vision I still take an X-ray for documentation!;)
dany
1/23/2014
I have a similar patient where implant had a peri apical radiolucency like cyst. Although implant was rotating on tighteing abutment with hand. So do you recommend to perform periapical surgery?
Peter Fairbairn
1/23/2014
Hi Dany ............ er no ! if rotating just rotate it out and place in the bin...
"Peri apical surgery" as such is only viable with integrated Implants..
Monish Bhola at Detroit Mercy has done some long term work on this type of surgery which is very interesting.
Does no one use Osstell ?
Peter
Kambiz
1/23/2014
You can not judge this after 8 weeks. Compare PAs before and after placement with 8 weeks after. 2 scenarios 1- either overpreped (it will be ok)2- left over granulation tissue(it will be OK too) I am positive this will osseointegrate fine . Wait and take another PA after 4-6 months before loading. Even if this is a herd, the bacteria have no substrate to survive. Implants have no canals! No apical lesion for implant unless there is an intraoral access for germs.
CRS
1/24/2014
I believe that the bacteria do quite well surviving on the blood in the marrow spaces once the area is seeded. I like the posts on the peri implant surgery I would use the nd- yag to kill the pathogens. Could someone please post the article references? You are correct that a failing root canal does continue to seed the area but this is a different pathological process. I would still recommend removal since this is early in the game vs chasing a compromised implant.
Richard
1/26/2014
Thanks to all again!
I would like to say that the doctor whose patient this is, has all neccesary x-rays before implant placement. I didn't post them at first, and now can't attach them after question was posted. The truth is that we don't have immidiate post-op x-ray and I really don't know where we made lapse(probably because at that tme it was lot of work).
To clarify my earlier post. The tooth was extracted in january 2013. and implant was placed in november 2013. So it is not immidiate post extraction implant placement. The immidiate pre-op x-ray doesn't show anything suspect. I'll try to somehow post the image.
I am also aware that this has nothing with AnyRidge implants, but patient has already 3 Astra Tech implants for years without anything like this.
My first suspicion was also that this is retrograde periimplantitis, but I couldn't bealive that it can happen 10 months after extraction. We tried to rotate the implant with driver and fingers but it is very stable. Probably, it would be necessary to use a lot of force to unscrew the implant.
The thing is that I can only suggest the colegue what to do, becuase it is his patient. The patient works on international ship and he must leave the country for 6 months and doesn't want any more operations. I'll post update if somebody is interested when he returns.
doc
5/11/2017
First of all, ANY one doing a surgical procedure and turning over his xrays to someone else is taking great risks with personal health information. Should there ever be a claim like this in the US, a patient could say NO xrays were ever taken, since the doctor doing them doesn't have them. Second, in all honesty, the absolute "WORST" patients are the ones with "special" considerations like this, and for whom YOU are not the primary care provider. So in the US, a followup letter with your concerns and recommendations for further care would be in order. But no matter what ideas anyone has, if the patient doesn't want "any more operations" he needs to sign an "informed refusal of care" or similar so you can at least have some backup. If he chooses not to, enter it into the patient record. Remember, bad infections (like sinus extending intraorbitally) do happen and that's what patients can't understand, but will try to hold doctors accountable for. Good luck
CRS
1/26/2014
It is very simple the bacteria are walled off in the bone and are quiescent. When the implant osteotomies are drilled the bone is opened up, new blood supply, a nice blood clot, and the process starts. So my new protocol as an oral surgeon removing old failing endo teeth is to use the nd-yag laser with correct wavelength to kill pigmented bacteria several mm below the bone surface with proper measured joule energy. Probable second dose at implant placement just to be sure. This cannot be done with any other laser especially a diode which just melts the tissue, I graft at the same time use a laser generated clot and obtain primary closure if there is not a vestibular issue. I also inspect the buccal plate and modify the graft appropriately. It is sort of like having the right antibiotic in this case the right laser. And no I do not work for Millenium just use the correct laser for the problem, I've been burned( no pun intended) on these cases by well meaning referring dentists who like to do their own extractions and grafts which I have to redo and the patient pays for twice. On the other hand I am intrigued with Peter's success with the calcium type grafting products in my hands I have gotten poor results and have shifted to all human products including PRGF, no bovine thrombin, and human chorionic membranes. I still like Teflon however. This is an interesting problem since the implant bed looks great then starts to break down before uncovering for restoration. I do see the pattern also when an implant is placed near an old endo tooth. We have come a long way with endo now with microscopes and I am old enough to remember periapical surgery so I am suspect with older Root canals or ones not done under a microscope. Thanks for reading my ramblings it is a snowy January!
doc
5/11/2017
To all this, there is only one comment that can be made---Nd Yag lasers, and all. There is always an indication to be found for heretofore useless, unnecessary, and questionable interventions and techniques based on nothing more than speculation and supposition. Pigmented bacteria, indeed--besides being "politically incorrect" (pun intended)--simple, far less sexy or extravagant (not to mention costly as doc doesn't fire up the NYag for "free:!) mechanical procedures like piezo, curettes, or good old burs, and not lasers (for which they are not intended by the way) are the mainstay of the majority of surgeons across this country. But maybe not in "Hollywood".....
Peter Fairbairn
1/27/2014
Hi Richard , your initial post states that it was 8 weeks from extraction to placement , now it is extraction in Jan 2013 and placemnet in Nov 2013 .... so not quite 8 weeks .
We are trying to help and need the correct case details initially ...
Hi CRS , yes after 10 years with certain alloplast we appear to have a real game changer developed which is very exciting . I have had an animal study published in the new Implant Dentistry on the concepts ...
Regards
Peter
Richard
3/7/2014
Hi!
Thanks. The problem is that moderator probably didn't understand my first question (due to lack of my knowlage of english) and modified it very much. So, the real case information is said in reply posts.
For now, patient had to go outside the country and I doesn't have any news. When he returns we will make new x-ray and see what happens and try to remove the implant. The problem is that we can't use trephine burs for removal because there is just thin bone which covers the implant buccaly (about 1-1.5 mm) and we will loose that with trephine. Maybe will try with torque wrench.
Best regards!
doc
5/11/2017
The trepine and buccal plate notion is just nonsense. First, without any 3 D films, HOW do you know the buccal plate is fragile. Second, I guarantee anyone can just "unscrew" that implant, and certainly a torque wrench can remove an 8.5! Even still, you put it in, it's failed, (now it seems 8 months, not 8 weeks later!) then get it out, trephine or whatever.
Dok
10/25/2016
Need to radiographically follow the progression ( or lack thereof ) of this lesion. Does the original radiograph show this area ? If there are no symptoms ( no spontaneous pain, NO PAIN TO PALPATION, no exudate, no mobility ) leave it a while longer.... 2- 3 months. If a change in size ( increase ) or symptoms develope during that time, treat it as described above with lateral window access and debridement/regeneration. Of course if the lesion appears to get smaller just continue to watch it. Surgical scars and open sockets generally take longer than 8 wks to heal as do most periapical lesion that are in a phase of healing.
doc
5/11/2017
as an aside the lack of pre extraction, peri implant and other radiographs (ie CBCT) is quite telling. Again, cuttingcorners in simple cases--and this is a simple one--always compromises results in the most inopportune ways.