Slight Bone Loss Around Implants: Should I Treat These Before Restoring Them?
Dr. G. asks:
I generally restore Straumann implants. I had a new patient present with implant fixtures in #31,30 sites [mandibular right second molar and first molar]. I have not been able to identify these implants and I need to restore them. I also noted there was some bone loss on both implants. Both implants are not mobile, the gingival around them is normal and there are no signs of disease. Do these implants require any treatment before I restore them? If so, what treatment do you recommend?
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47 Comments on Slight Bone Loss Around Implants: Should I Treat These Before Restoring Them?
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John Kong, DDS
3/20/2012
You should treat the peri-implantitis before you restore the implants.
Replace the healing caps with coverscrew.
Disinfect thread, place autogenous bone, membrane and sleep the implants for 6 months before uncovering and restoring.
Dr. dan
3/20/2012
You don't need to do all that.
If the implants are not mobile, then we are in good shape. What is the probing depth? Is there a lot of bleeding upon probing. If there is bleeding on probing, then the implant needs to be disinfected.
Currently on trial is using the Periolase . The laser may help disinfect the area and potentially get bone fill. I'm sorry, but bone grafting will do no good. If you don't have the Periolase and don't know a dentist that uses it, then start with Arrestin to get a healthier environment. If that doesn't do the job, then flap the area and disinfect the implant with doxycycline powder and burnish on the exposed surfaces. Again, if you want to add bone, fine, but it won't do anything.
Chances are, this bone loss around this implant is either due to poor placement of the implant or a normal healing process of a microgap forming.
Dr. Prasanth Pillai, Koch
3/20/2012
I totally agree with Dr.Dan's comments on the management of this case.
fateh vaisi kurdestan
3/20/2012
Hi dear Dr.G
It is highly recommended to treat the peri implantitis by opening a flap debride & decontaminate the site meticulously (it is preferred to use laser if available it will guarantee bone regeneration) make membrane supported bone graft & wait 6-8 mounts .
but the concern of finding suitable abutment despite of your implants being unknown is still a challenge.
Dr. dan
3/20/2012
There is no evidence of bone regeneration by a laser. Bone fill, possibly. Regeneration, possibly.
Dr. Alex Zavyalov
3/20/2012
For similar clinical cases the best prosthetic solution is splinted crowns from inexpensive, light-weight materials (without metal frame) such as composites, acetal resins, Lava Ultimate and etc.
Dr. Don Rothenberg
3/20/2012
Remove impalnts... and replace with Bicon short implants.
Dr. dan
3/20/2012
yuck
Dr. Stuart Kalmus
3/20/2012
First, you can identify the implant through--http://whatimplantisthat.com/
Second, I question if there is any peri-implantitis? As stated the tissue is healthy with no evidence of disease. This is likely the same scenario that we have seen for years with bone loss around the first few threads. Without pre-operateive radiographs or radiographs immediately post placement you really do not know. The #31 fixture certainly is more questionable. Removing, grafting and replacing would not be a bad solution.
Dr. Vinod Krishnan
3/21/2012
Pre operative raidographs are essential for comparison to judge the loss of bone. The flap may be raised , the site debrided,the exposed screw threads may be smoothened and treated with doxycycline and observed. If the bone loss stops progressing, continuous crowns may be given. If the bone loss progresses the implants may be removed, bone graft placed. After complete healing new implants may be placed.
Adrian
3/20/2012
Looks like 3i. My prediction is you'll never get bone above the level of #30 distal, no matter how much grafting is done.
Alejandro Berg
3/20/2012
I would not treat this as periimplantitis per se. Remove the posterior implant, graft both sites and submerge everything , then replace the implant and at a later date restore
Cheers
Kevan Green
3/20/2012
I bet this was a single stage case and was intentionally platform switched, to avoid crestal bone loss due to the microgap and possibly to compensate for proximity issues. It is possible that bone loss could have been due to premature mechanical loading. It would be good to know the etiology of the crestal bone loss. Otherwise the disease process or whatever, might continue. I would be inclined to remove the distal implant, graft both sites and place another fixture down the line. I would submerge the case and instruct the patient to avoid eating over the healing site. I would also get an FMX, do a comprehensive charting and determine the patient's periodontal status.
dr. dan
3/20/2012
Why submerge? At least temporize the implant and let the patient know that it might not work out. Why allow the maxillary second molar super erupt?
Dr. Sameer
3/20/2012
Hi, I think Dr. Dan is correct and there is no need of bone grafting and sleeping it for 6 months, and we definitely do not want the upper teeth to over erupt. Have seen and treated such cases and they heal up and work fine. I would also like to add, if we had a clinical picture we could comment and discuss it further deeply and precisely.
Dr. Fabio Silvestre
3/20/2012
If you don't have any signs of peri implantitis and I am almost sure you don't have.All you have to do is restore implants checking the occlusion (smooth touch beetwen upper and lower archs) and an x ray each 3 months controlling the case.
Dr G
3/20/2012
If you have bone lost to the 4-5th tread, before loading, there is a problem. If you restore this case, you have a problem. Better to inform the patient first. The second implant is compromised, better to remove it now. The first one is not ideal also. Question : in your mouth, what do you want your implants to look like before you restore them ? In my hand, I don't restore those in this condition.
salim hazim
3/26/2012
(in your mouth) what a honest statment, may every dentist must ask himself that question before desiding any treatment plan for any patient. case like this if restored what future with prosthesis with exposed multiple threaded, how the soft tissues can fill the spaces with no bone support. Why we wait the implant to fail later, it must be treated before any prosthetic work
Dr. dan
3/26/2012
Removing a non mobile implant now will be far more invasive than keeping it submerged..although, in my opinion, again, if the soft tissue is good around #31, at least temporize it and inform the patient of the situation. Wait a year and see if there is more bone loss. If not, finalize it. No bone grafting in the world will help this implant which has osseointegrated.
Dr. Alfred L. Heller - Di
3/20/2012
Go to whatimplantisthis.com to identify the exact implant. Reflect tissue and de-nature with citric acid, wash area, place dense hydroxyappatite and resuture. Will not get new bone growth but will get tissue integrity and over time pocket depth will decrease. Threads could be removed before placing HA but not necessary. If threads are removed then cut metal must be smoothed with diamond rough and then smooth grit.
Sjaan Adema CDT,TE
3/20/2012
If it were me, I would try to restore tissue health first, leave implants the way they are, stable in the bone. Introduce a better oral hygienic plan to patient and replace with either Radica temps and follow hygienic plan for several months. If all's okay, then replace with crowns that fit with broad contacts at the occlusal third of interproximal marginal ridges with plenty interproximal space allowed at tissue level for proxy brush cleaning. Implants don"t look to have undercuts so any good dental tech can replace the crowns once a detailed impression has been provided. Maybe Bruxir crowns as zirconia is very biocompatible to adjacent tissues.I am sure there are oclusal stresses on the #31 implant because of the mesial inclination of placement which may contribute to tissue irritation.
Dr. Stuart Kalmus
3/20/2012
Everyone is stuck pon Peri Implantitis yet the submittting Dr. states that there is not evidence of disease ?
Occlusal stress's on #31 and mesial inclination? Look at radiograph! Contact how?
As I stated without history and previous radiographs it is all speculation.
John Kong, DDS
3/20/2012
What's happened to this site and where are you people coming from?
Again, if an implant has boneloss down to the 4th thread, it's peri-implantitis (please let's agree on that): "If the implants are not mobile, then you're in good shape? Also bonegrafting will do no good?" Do I have to really have to debate this?
I think I'm done with this thread.
rsdds
3/21/2012
i'm with you 100%
Dr. dan
3/26/2012
If there is active disease, then it is peri implantitis. If the tissue is healthy, it's not an -itis anymore...or was it ever an -itis? Perhaps it wasn't submerged in bone completely. Perhaps the implants was placed in thin bone and the coronal portion resorbed..That doesn't make it peri-implantitis, my friend.
But we can talk about different treatments if it were an active inflammation which by definition makes it an -itis.
John Kong, DDS
3/27/2012
Dr.dan, go bs someone else; I've no desire to debate the obvious with you.
Dr. Sam, Periodontist
3/21/2012
Dear Dr. G. , one thing I'm sure of .. they are both 3i implants..No doubt.! and in my humble opinion.. all of the above comments could be correct, and at the same time wrong.! . because we do NOT have ( and never will ) enough information to know what is the history of this site, or what happened exactly during the placement time, healing time, and all that.. so..as far as what is the etiology of the Bone losses../ we are ALL speculating !.. as far as what to do with it.. I have done MANY of the above suggestions, if not all.. some will work , some won't.... it may work this time on this case, but not on the next one., or visa versa...but no body knows for sure which one does or doesn't and when . All and all.. doing something to clean the tissue around the implants are better than just watching. good luck.!
Robert J. Miller
3/21/2012
I am really concerned about the title of this blog. With 20% bone loss on the anterior implant and 40% bone loss on the posterior implant, this is not "Slight Bone Loss...". I believe that the terminology expressed here is also confusing. We need to first explain the difference between an ailing, failing, and failed implant. Obviously, a mobile or fractured endosseous implant has failed and needs to be removed. An ailing implant is one with less than an ideal tissue envelope but no active disease process (classic peri-implantitis). This implant can go into a steady state and not deteriorate any further. The failing implant is an ailing implant with an active disease process that requires timely intervention to prevent ultimate failure. The presence of mucositis only can be treated with chemotherapeutic agents or soft tissue lasers. Peri-implantitis with considerable bone loss MUST be treated definitively; open flap debridement (preferably with an ablative hard tissue laser) and grafting to restore the hard tissue envelope. Anything short of this type of definitive treatment may result in further bone loss and implant/prosthesis failure. If you restore these implants in their current condition, you not only OWN this case, but you also bear responsibilty for not rendering appropriate care should they fail.
RJM
Dr SenGupta
3/21/2012
Remove distal Implant.
From the post there is no load on these as they are yet to be restored.
After graft replace the implant ...I am guessing from the x ray that the bone quality is decent and I am assuming there is sufficient vertical height.Place new distal implant ..
Grafting will achieve very little in this case.
Then restore both with single crowns
If the condition is left and allowed to further deteriorate ie more than the 50% lost on the distal then I don't see why you would choose to restore the distal implant??
If you leave the distal until even more bone is lost then you compromise the possibility of re treatment or possibly damage the anterior...
Another possibility is remove distal then restore the mesial and finish right there.
Regarding the upper second molar over eruption...possibly slightly extend the lower molar crown distally to prevent over eruption.
N.K.
3/21/2012
I WOULD BE AFFRAID OF RESTORING THIS CASE AS THE NEEDED 1:1 PROPORTION OF IMPLANT (IN BONE):SUPERSTRACTURE IS ABSENT.ONLY AFTER BLOCK BONE GRAFTING TO ACHIEVE THE NESSECARY BONE HEIGHT.
Dr. dan
3/21/2012
Implants don't have to have a 1:1 crown to implant ratio. that's for teeth which have ligaments. Implants are ankylosed and therefore have more surface contact to bone than teeth. So throw the crown to root ratio idea out the door with implants. You can restore 6 mm implants with 10mm crowns for example..and don't have to splint them to anything.
Mario Marcone
3/22/2012
With all due respect, I believe that the current scientific evidence would strongly disagree with this point of view.
MM
dr. dan
3/22/2012
All due respect common sense says otherwise. Healthy Osseointegrated implants have never failed due to poor crown to root ratio. Long span implant bridges can. Bruxers can cause failures. Peri implantitis can cause failures. But healthy, short implants which are osseointegrated do not require a one to one ratio. There is more bone to implant contact with osseointegrated implants than teeth with ligaments.
Hog wash with what current lit says.
FYI, its true with immediate loaded implants crown to root ratio DOES matter.
Mario Marcone
3/25/2012
According to this, then, one would have to hope that none of any of the patients receiving implant therapy according to this idea ever become bruxers/clenchers.
MM
Dr. dan
3/26/2012
Any implant of any size which have osseointegrated should require a night guard in bruxers and clenchers.
In fact, better off either requiring or strongly recommending night guards to most patients who receive implant treatment. It's not invasive and it's not harmful nor permanent.
Juan Rumeu
3/21/2012
Dear Dr G: I have treated some cases like this and they are quite predictable if the surface is Osseotite. If it is tiUnite you are lost and remove the posterior implant But it seems there are Biomet 3I so do the following: 1. Remove healing caps and place coverscrews and let it set for one month. 2. open a flap, remove the granulation tissue and upon cleaning very well the implant surface apply tetraciclines for 3 min. regenerate with xeno or allograft and collagen membrane and try to close completely the wound. 3. Wait 6 months and you will have a wonderful fase II and you can place the healing cups and restore them. I would be very surprise if it doesn't work. good luck. cheers. Dr R
Dr. dan
3/21/2012
One small correction...it's not granulation tissue..it's granulomatous tissue. Granulation tissue is healing tissue while granulomatous tissue is infected soft tissue.
Dr. dan
3/21/2012
I think some people are missing an important point in regard to crown to root ratio.
Yes, you worry about it with actual teeth with ligaments around them. Implants are different. Osseointegration is essentially ankylosis of the titanium fixture. And there is more bone to implant interaction than ligament to tooth interaction. So you can throw your crow to root ratio ideology out the door with this particular implant..
I have placed and restored 6mm implants with really really long crowns on molars and with occlusion and they still exist in the mouth with very little to no bone loss. However, I have seen teeth crown lengthened and restored with poor crown to root ratio fail.
My point is, throw the whole crown to root ratio ideology out the door when talking about implants and implant crowns. It's not the same thing as teeth.
salim hazim
3/26/2012
what about levering action of long crown on the implant fixture that may be agraviate by lateral component of occlusal forces, long crown will increase forces that act away from the long axis of the implant and will cause more and more crestal bone resorption
Dr. dan
3/26/2012
The only thing I wonder about in this particular situation is the abutment connection and not the implant itself. If an implant is healthy and osseointegrated, it will be rock solid the majority of the time in this situation. HOWEVER, that little tiny screw that gets torqued into place, that may come loose or break...or depending if there is a defect in the implant and the patient's bite, the part which has the least amount of titanium can break off. These implant fractures are extremely rare. As far as the tiny screw that torques the abutment to the implant..most times it gets loose before it breaks.
I will reiterate. You get a much higher failure rate immediate loading short implants (including cross arch cases). In the case of immediate loading, you have to think of the implant like it is a tooth with a ligament. But once osseointegrated, 1:1 ratio is a moot point.
E. Richard Hughes, DDS, F
3/23/2012
I f the implants are non mobile, tx by way of full flapping, remove all the soft tissue/granulation & fibrous), detox with citrate, graft with autogenous and synthetic (Osteogen) on the outer layer, cover with a slowly resorbable collagen membrane, suture w vicryl. I f those are healing collars, then replace w/ healing screws. Find out if the patient has any bad teeth/ perio and tx. Find out if the pt. smokes or drinks excessive EtOH .
Dr Naji Abboud, Periodont
3/26/2012
Surely those are 5mm diameter 3i implants with shifting platform (4mm healing abutments are placed) I totally agree with Dr Sam (Periodontist) about the uncertainty of all the treatments mentioned above.
I personally do some curettage and sub-gingival irrigation on the first implant and replace the 2nd molar implant
Dean Tanaka
3/28/2012
Ideal: remove implant but can be
How about flap, prep the implant smooth, and close?
Dean Tanaka
3/28/2012
oops I left out: traumatic and may lose vertical bone height
Mario Marcone
3/28/2012
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It is disgusting to see that some of these individuals call themselves doctors ...
MM
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3/29/2012
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Heather
3/28/2012
periodontal maintenance is also done by yours truly the RDH....
with no JE just how much scaling and probing should we be doing around these frankenstein bolts anyways??....;) sorry couldn't resist...I just wish they had scalers that could actually be adapted to the crazy things since the crown never matches the long axis of the implant.......ahhh well these THREADS crack me up........................................I really need to manage my time better...