CBCT Machine: Suggestions for how to select?
We are considering investing in a CBCT machine in about a month’s time. However, there are many machines made by different manufacturers on the market. It’s so confusing, and I really don’t want to be stuck with a poor choice. What are the key features that others recommend that we should look out for when shopping around for one? What features would be absolutely necessary, and which desirable? What other suggestions can you make? Thanks.
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Dr. Ganjoor
5/2/2018
What are you planning to use it for? Implant ? Ortho? Endo?
Jason Larkin
5/2/2018
Carestream 8100
DrG
5/2/2018
Honestly I have this unit and I’m not totally satisfied with the quality of the images. I wish I had spent more and purchased a machine that takes a full skull image
Kaz
5/2/2018
I also have an 8100. I think the quality of the views are good. I do not understand how or why one would want to identify a planned implant by a color rather than the approximate tooth location one would find in the mouth. On more complex cases I transfer my Dicom files to Blue Sky Bio software (free) . I do not know all of the software out there in the dental field but I have used several. BSB is about the most robust software I have worked with. The field view is good for 95% of what I do. I place single and full mouth implants. It cannot get the entire jaw if one wants to do a ramus frame or you need to evaluate TMJ. It is difficult to determine what is best as most of the top brands are pretty good.
Dale Miles
6/14/2018
Sorry I am late to this discussion...but my website has lots of cone beam information and I teach a mini-residency in cbct at dental meetings...just finished a program at Gordon Christensen's in Provo...15 CE hours...and I do review machines briefly...mostly teach you principles, anatomy and what pathology to look out for to reduce your risk/liability...
www.doctorconebeam.com
best, Dale Miles
Shorty Doc
5/2/2018
You will have to narrow down some things:
1. what are the top procedures you will use it for, not just for now, but also 5 years from now?
2. what is your budget?
3. how much room do you have? There's some units I can't even consider because of the space available in my office.
For sure pick one where the data captured is in a format that is easily shared between labs and other offices; and has a low radiation exposure to the patient. For me, it also needs to be easy for staff to use and come with an intuitive software to interpret the data. Happy shopping.
drshyamomfs
5/2/2018
1. Implants and endo. Occasional tmj
2. Budget upto 60000usd
3. Space not an issue.
Najeeb Hussain
5/2/2018
You have to look into various different CBCT machines in the market and available locally.
Check which one you like the most. Every manufacturer use their own planning software. Remember. You cant make any changes once you have made a choice and you are stuck with for 5-10 years.
If you use it for implants the cost ranges from £ 30,000 to £ 55,000. All endo cases can be scanned with a lower FOV.
If you need it for Orthodontics and need to add Cephalometric arms, it costs more to do so.
You have to navigate through their scans and see which one you feel most comfortable with. Finally, you have to look into what your rep is offering. For example, are they providing you with warranty and care for at least 5 years or is it 2 year standard manufacturer warranty with an extension for another 3 years with additional costs. ( Cover yourself for 5 years at least ) In CBCT, if the scanner is gone, its very expensive to replace these. Sensors costs apprximatley 2/3rd of the cost of machine itself.
If you are using it for implants then how big do you want your area to be. This is determined by FOV ( Field of View ) expressed in cms. For example 5x5 gives you an area of 5cms x 5cms or about 3 width teeth. You can select example 5cms x5cms or FOV 8X10 which means 8cms x 10 cms. The higher the FOV the more expensive the machines as they use larger sensors which determines the cost of the machine. So, Endo cases need 4x4 or 5x5 FOV, and full arch implant jaw to be scanned may need FOV 10x10 or more if needed or it can go up to 12x12 or more for larger scans. Scanning centers use industrial grade large FOV machines whereas small centres use FOV up to 8x8 or 10x10.
Examples of these machines include:
Kodak Care stream 8100 ( Newer model and designed for implant based practices )Uses Carestream viewer and has FOV of 5x5 as minimum and 10x10 as maximum.
Vatech ( Korean company ) has Paxi3D, Uni3d, Green, etc and uses Easy 3D software
Sirona XG 3D Orthophos, etc uses Galileos/Galaxis software
ICAT scanner uses ICAT Vision Software
Planmeca uses their own 3d software, planmeca Romexis
The list goes on. Please see these softwares on you tube, see what scans you find easy to use, navigate a scan and see what you like
NB: Most of the above CT Scanners yield DICOM files ( Digital imaging and communications in Medicine ) aka DCM.files and they can be downloaded in most planning softwares to navigate and plan in other softwares.
You can get scans from Carestream CS8100 and use it on Bluesky Bio free software and get guides for implants, etc. ( Check on such compatbilities and enquire with reps ) You need some research and do not do a deal hastily as you need to see whats out there, and what suits you the best, Please take time and exhaust yourself with what are pros and cons and choose the best. Hope this information gives you a headstart. All the best !
drshyamomfs
5/2/2018
Excellent advice. Thank you. Larger the FOV, the better. Are there any numbers to be looked at in specs?
Suzanne Popp
5/2/2018
I have a Biolase ( now Chefla) VG3. I have had it for 3 years. I use it everyday. Some images are grea,t some are not. However, the service and training is horrible. They sent the wrong parts when it was delivered, so that day of training was wasted. The trainer that was sent to me was awesome, but the $120,000 machine only came with 1.5 days of training. They have no training on line and the new company that took over wants to charge me$100 per hour of training with a three hour minimum. But, I can't practice without it.
Richard Hughes, DDS, DABO
5/2/2018
I have a Vatech i3D Smart CT with Pano. This machine takes a pano and CT at the same time (two dedicated sensors).
The training and support are great to excellent.
I place and restore implants daily.
I have no issues with Vatech.
rrodds
5/2/2018
I would do research on which machine has software that reduces or eliminate "scattering."
David Levitt
5/2/2018
I have a somewhat unique practice in that I perform implants and related procedures (sinus, etc) in other dentists offices. As a result I use many different machines. Vatech manufactures the xray head and sensor for many different companies. As a result Vatech's service is second to none. Vatech, Icat, Newtom are good machines. Carestream is barely adequate and Sirona I wouldn't own. Ive heard the new Sirona is a big improvement but the old one is just awful.
Edward
5/2/2018
My OMFS friends each have the Vatech machines and are happy with them. They seems to have been pretty reliable. I have a Sirona XG3D machine that is 3 years old and have had no issues with it. I use it for Endo, Oral pathology and Implants. My friends and I have compared my Sirona XG3D and their Vatech images and agree mine are better. The reason they did not get my machine is the FOV is too small for OMFS. Sirona's machines with the larger FOV 3 years ago did not have the same quality of image as did mine. I'm not sure if that is still the case today but I would certainly look into it.
Good luck with your search.
drshyamomfs
5/2/2018
Does the resolution of the images we see have anything to do with FOV? Does it mean that larger FOV gives a poor resolution and vice versa? Images from some of the machines are just horrible, and defeats the purpose of ordering a Cbct for the purpose of implant planning.
Hank Michael
5/2/2018
I have Genoray's Volux 21. Purchased 5 years ago and haven't had any issues. Great price, large FOV, easy to use and great support. I believe the images have been fine. Some distortion when patients move or lot's of metal fillings, implants or root canals. The machine has now been replaced with the Papaya from Genoray. I can't speak for the new machine but I can say that the company has always been great for support when needed... which hasn't been very often. I am moving my office and considered an upgrade to the Papaya, but I didn't like that it doesn't have a floor mount option at this time. It has a large foot that I feel will be a bit cumbersome to navigate.
Dix P
5/2/2018
Keep away from Planmeca
Hopeless images. Very poor and ideally that should be banned from the market. Not fit for purpose. Only advantage the dose is very low.
Elie
5/3/2018
I have the Vatech Green and I am very satisfied for all fields of dentistry ; surgeries, implants , endo , pathology , diagnostics .
MARK Boulcott
5/3/2018
I have a carestream 9000 that bought cheaper new from a customer who after purchased wanted to 'upgrade' to colour sirona. I am happy with this machine as to me, most CBCT scanners provide the same information: only how they present that information differs and a nicer pic adds little to diagnostic info. Beware having a machine that will scan all jaw but cannot be zoomed down to scan jaw area only. You are not qualified to report on non dental areas and if you miss a lesion in other areas you will be (in UK at least) deemed negligent as you did not have a specialist report. Hence I am happy with my small jaw areas that I can ask to 'stitch' together if required.
Admiral518
5/3/2018
I applaud the above comments. I own a Sirona Orthophos XG 3D with ceph attachment. It has a dedicated panograph mode and seperate CBCT mode, as opposed to units that only have the CBCT mode and give you a "derived" panex. That means that all patients are getting CBCT levels of radiation exposure. I wouldn't want that for my family. Sirona has excellent training and service. The unit has been relatively trouble free. Image quality is over the top. I integrate images with Cerec scan's then design and mill surgical guides, custom healing abutments and final restorations. It's been an incredible learning experience and worth it. Good luck.
Leonard Smith
5/4/2018
Any info from instrumentarium users on quality , support?
sb oms
5/7/2018
I have a planmenca promax mid-
It is by far the best machine and produces the best images i've ever seen
The scatter reduction technology and the ability to work with your data to maximize diagnostic quality is unsurpassed. I see many scans, taken on other machines, every day.
My planmeca pro max scanner is an incredibly powerful instrument.
My referring dentists love the resolution and images it produces.
I shopped around before i got this machine.
I have just recently begun integrating the X-Nav dynamic guiding technology. It has worked seemlessly. The technicians routinely comment on the quality of my scans, all saying that they are the finest they have seen.
Probably cost u more, but for planning and placing dental implants, well worth it.
Dale Miles
6/29/2018
Training was mentioned a lot...
1. what did your "training" consist of?
2. who did the training
3. did any manufacturer show you how to export the dicom data or just burn a CD
4. have any of you owners sought training in anatomy in CBCT, interpretation, risk, liability issues?
What was the main factor in purchase?
Carter
9/4/2019
A lot of good info coming from this page. I've recently joined my fathers practice and am placing implants. Playing tug-of-war between Planmeca ProMax 3D Plus and VA Tech's Geen CT2 3D. Does anyone have any input on this comparison. How does the planning software compare? Positives and negatives to either? Thank you in advanced.